BornAgainMac
Oct 19, 05:37 PM
We are spoiled. 20 years ago, we would have easily paid that for software that did what it did.
Mad Mac Maniac
Mar 29, 09:09 AM
OK MikhailT, I'm not sure if you didn't actually read my posts, are just an unhelpful person, or if I was unclear in some way. Let me break it down.
If the iPad devices are as powerful as our computers, we would not be experiencing any issues in Safari. You're talking about just 256MB of RAM in the first-gen iPad and 512MB in second-gen iPad which are able to handle the sites in Safari much better than it does in the first-gen iPad. Add 2GB-4GB to the iPad, Mobile Safari would be able to handle 20 sites without any refreshing required.
Yes, I acknowledged that Macs have significantly more RAM than the 512mb of iPad 2's, but that doesn't remove the possibility. If the iPad had 2gb of RAM it would conceivably happen eventually. Say on my macbook running lion I were to open 30 safari tabs (for some people that is not uncommon), then my wife comes and uploads pictures, edits them in Lightroom, then plays some angry birds. Then my (hypothetical) kids come along and play a few hardware intensive games, and maybe open a new safari window to browse the internet. Then I come back and write some word documents and excel spreadsheets. I go to bed, then go to work the next day (who knows what all my wife and kids do on the computer). EVERYTHING is left "open" because we are on Lion so nobody closes anything. I come home and go back to my safari tabs. Is it even POSSIBLE to have some of the tabs disappear or need to be refreshed to view? Would some of my full screen "spaces" apps disappear as well? What if my macbook only has 1gb of RAM? That's only double the iPad 2. I don't think it's that inconceivable
Secondly, Apple didn't take open/close lights away, it is now an optional setting in the Systems Preferences. The reason Apple did this is because they want to remove the idea of "open"/"closed" states.
I know why they did it. And that is the way Apple wants it, that's why it's default. If it were up to Apple the option to put it back would be gone. But they were smart enough to anticipate the "outrage"
The software are starting to catch up to the hardware in terms of speed that we can leave applications and return to it in the same state. Apple wants to be able to introduce the concept of *resuming* apps, not *closed*. When you restart Lion with open apps, Lion will restart with the same open apps in the same state. This is the future on Mac OS X. No more closing required, especially with a fast SSD.
This is my point of concern. No closing could cause apps to "close" that you didn't want them to. Now most of them would be able to *resume* as left with no issue. But would 30 safari tabs be handled the same way?
The hard drive/ssd in today's computers are much faster than the NANDs in the current iPad. Resuming an app is much faster than it would be on a modern computer. Look at how fast apps are resuming from the previous state in the iPad 2 and you can see how much the hardware difference is affecting the performance.
speed of resuming has nothing to do with what I'm talking about...
The other thing that you need to consider is the memory swap. Mac OS X have swap, iOS doesn't. Even if you run out of free memory on the Macs, you'll begin to switch to the harddrive/ssd to use as virtual memory.Well finally we get to something that might actually be helpful. This would help to explain why Macs don't do this. But are there any issues/concerns with this?
If you had tried running Lion, you would know by now that this is simply not the case.
Well, I obviously haven't. That's why I'm asking.
No, it's quite ridiculous in fact.
:rolleyes:
If the iPad devices are as powerful as our computers, we would not be experiencing any issues in Safari. You're talking about just 256MB of RAM in the first-gen iPad and 512MB in second-gen iPad which are able to handle the sites in Safari much better than it does in the first-gen iPad. Add 2GB-4GB to the iPad, Mobile Safari would be able to handle 20 sites without any refreshing required.
Yes, I acknowledged that Macs have significantly more RAM than the 512mb of iPad 2's, but that doesn't remove the possibility. If the iPad had 2gb of RAM it would conceivably happen eventually. Say on my macbook running lion I were to open 30 safari tabs (for some people that is not uncommon), then my wife comes and uploads pictures, edits them in Lightroom, then plays some angry birds. Then my (hypothetical) kids come along and play a few hardware intensive games, and maybe open a new safari window to browse the internet. Then I come back and write some word documents and excel spreadsheets. I go to bed, then go to work the next day (who knows what all my wife and kids do on the computer). EVERYTHING is left "open" because we are on Lion so nobody closes anything. I come home and go back to my safari tabs. Is it even POSSIBLE to have some of the tabs disappear or need to be refreshed to view? Would some of my full screen "spaces" apps disappear as well? What if my macbook only has 1gb of RAM? That's only double the iPad 2. I don't think it's that inconceivable
Secondly, Apple didn't take open/close lights away, it is now an optional setting in the Systems Preferences. The reason Apple did this is because they want to remove the idea of "open"/"closed" states.
I know why they did it. And that is the way Apple wants it, that's why it's default. If it were up to Apple the option to put it back would be gone. But they were smart enough to anticipate the "outrage"
The software are starting to catch up to the hardware in terms of speed that we can leave applications and return to it in the same state. Apple wants to be able to introduce the concept of *resuming* apps, not *closed*. When you restart Lion with open apps, Lion will restart with the same open apps in the same state. This is the future on Mac OS X. No more closing required, especially with a fast SSD.
This is my point of concern. No closing could cause apps to "close" that you didn't want them to. Now most of them would be able to *resume* as left with no issue. But would 30 safari tabs be handled the same way?
The hard drive/ssd in today's computers are much faster than the NANDs in the current iPad. Resuming an app is much faster than it would be on a modern computer. Look at how fast apps are resuming from the previous state in the iPad 2 and you can see how much the hardware difference is affecting the performance.
speed of resuming has nothing to do with what I'm talking about...
The other thing that you need to consider is the memory swap. Mac OS X have swap, iOS doesn't. Even if you run out of free memory on the Macs, you'll begin to switch to the harddrive/ssd to use as virtual memory.Well finally we get to something that might actually be helpful. This would help to explain why Macs don't do this. But are there any issues/concerns with this?
If you had tried running Lion, you would know by now that this is simply not the case.
Well, I obviously haven't. That's why I'm asking.
No, it's quite ridiculous in fact.
:rolleyes:
mad jew
Dec 15, 08:33 PM
From a firmware perspective, try resetting the PRAM (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238) and if that doesn't work, reset the PMU (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449). :)
drenriza
Apr 26, 01:34 AM
Hi all.
I need to start java developers kit on my mac os x 10.6.
As i can read on different forums you download the program from the software update, for mac users. But how do i launch the program??
Thanks on advance.
I need to start java developers kit on my mac os x 10.6.
As i can read on different forums you download the program from the software update, for mac users. But how do i launch the program??
Thanks on advance.
FluJunkie
Apr 23, 06:37 PM
I've had a very positive experience using OWC for my Mac Pro RAM needs.
YanniDepp
Apr 4, 05:06 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if even things like the touch wheel and display are different between generations.
The iPod mini had two generations. They looked almost identical. But they had screens and click wheels that were totally incompatible with each other.
It will definitely be the same for the 5.5 gens and classics.
The iPod mini had two generations. They looked almost identical. But they had screens and click wheels that were totally incompatible with each other.
It will definitely be the same for the 5.5 gens and classics.
ccosenza777
Mar 10, 06:41 PM
Hi I was wondering what time people are planning on showing up?
skikid419
Jun 13, 05:30 PM
i would love to use that as the macrumors icon when u save it as an iphone bookmark on the homescreen!
brupm
Mar 9, 02:31 PM
I created a Charlie Sheen iPhone App (http://charliewins.tumblr.com/) last week which is in Review right now and should be released at any moment. It is pretty darn funny too. I am actually surprised not to see other apps like this out there. I guess apple just takes a while to approve.
blueroom
May 2, 07:03 PM
Any time I've watched someone getting something fixed at an Apple store they seem to be pretty pleased about the ordeal.
WB2Colorado
May 26, 08:05 PM
Yeah...
I've been looking to add an Xserve to my Mac collection. I don't know why, I just want one. I've always liked them.
I've been looking to add an Xserve to my Mac collection. I don't know why, I just want one. I've always liked them.
Chanse
Jul 22, 04:58 PM
I just bought a new iMac with an airport card. The rest of the computers in the house are pc's. I'm able to network with them with out a problem when I have a physical cable running to the iMac, but have no luck when I go wirelss. I'm able to pick up the signal, but it keeps asking for a password to log on to the network, and we don't have a password to log into the network. I'm running a linksys wireless b router and linksys cable modem. We tried entering in the WEP Key as the password, but it will not accept it. Any help would be great! Thanks
Chris
Chris
iJohnHenry
Mar 28, 07:46 AM
Considering anything near radiation also becomes contaminated, seems to me an animal spread of it would be a huge concern.
I think you are confusing being radiated with giving off radiation.
Exterior radioactive material washes off, but the damage to the organism has already occured.
Watch Dr. No. ;)
I think you are confusing being radiated with giving off radiation.
Exterior radioactive material washes off, but the damage to the organism has already occured.
Watch Dr. No. ;)
MacRumors
Feb 22, 07:10 PM
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GGJstudios
May 3, 12:16 PM
Found by searching the Apple Store for "backpack" (3rd result):
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1247LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1247LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
mactastic
Sep 11, 11:44 AM
Not only has AC gotten more efficient, but the drag coefficient has as well. On a highly aerodynamic vehicle I'd think any little increase in drag would be a lot more significant than on something like a truck or an SUV. I mean, if I leave the tailgate on my truck up that's a huge amount of drag. But that's normal for that vehicle. I wonder what it would do to the gas mileage if my wife drove her Civic with the trunk open all the time.
MacSlut
Apr 27, 02:10 PM
I'm confused.
Malware creators supposedly ignore the Mac platform because it's too small and they go after Windows because it's larger, not because it's less secure. However this malware is targeting Windows based iPad users...that's maybe what 500K right now more or less? And to be clear, it only affects the Windows platform, not the iPad itself (which is OS X based).
So tell us Windows fan boys, why did this happen?
Malware creators supposedly ignore the Mac platform because it's too small and they go after Windows because it's larger, not because it's less secure. However this malware is targeting Windows based iPad users...that's maybe what 500K right now more or less? And to be clear, it only affects the Windows platform, not the iPad itself (which is OS X based).
So tell us Windows fan boys, why did this happen?
Christian 5G
Jun 17, 07:17 PM
Thanks to all!!! two days ago I wanna buy 50$ but this one is 1.50$ thanks!!:D
mulo
Apr 18, 04:15 PM
quit double posting.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=12416114
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=12416114
mrblack927
May 2, 07:50 PM
Maybe things that are installed after the most recent update. I still have apps without X's.
I think you may be right. I just installed a few apps (from websites, not from the app store) and they all showed up with X's.
I think you may be right. I just installed a few apps (from websites, not from the app store) and they all showed up with X's.
obeygiant
Jan 8, 11:41 PM
Wow, that really hurts to be that guy.
I never actually clicked the link or read the article,
but by scimming everyones responses i gather
it was pretty tuff for the college student.
Truly, a damn shame.
I never actually clicked the link or read the article,
but by scimming everyones responses i gather
it was pretty tuff for the college student.
Truly, a damn shame.
Jetson
Jun 28, 09:45 PM
Thanks to whoever deleted the 2nd song that I requested. The 1st song has still not yet been deleted however. :confused:
dukebound85
Jan 2, 12:01 PM
I am not sure I like these changes for a few reasons
1) Those who troll or insult can be reported via PM
2) Opinions should be able to be stated in an argument and not need to be backed up by sources. Sources are nice, but requiring them? These are discussion threads on topics on the internet, not an official venue of anything
My suggestions would be to simply
1) report trolling/namecalling posts
2) request that if a point is brought up and taken hold of, that the person who brought up the point provide evidence or stop pressing the point....but not necessarily require sources right off
I know that many post as the topic interests them and want to discuss it but do not have in many cases the time to go dig up articles.
I don't feel that MR needs to take an active role in debate threads in terms of moderation aside from what has been done (not tolerating spam, name calling, trolling, etc). I feel debate threads should take whatever form as long as they are adhering to decency rules. I guess my point is that these forums are not akin to "debate club" and should not necessarily be treated as such. Besides, I have felt that moderation on past threads has been more than adequate in keeping the topic on topic and civil
Just my opinion
1) Those who troll or insult can be reported via PM
2) Opinions should be able to be stated in an argument and not need to be backed up by sources. Sources are nice, but requiring them? These are discussion threads on topics on the internet, not an official venue of anything
My suggestions would be to simply
1) report trolling/namecalling posts
2) request that if a point is brought up and taken hold of, that the person who brought up the point provide evidence or stop pressing the point....but not necessarily require sources right off
I know that many post as the topic interests them and want to discuss it but do not have in many cases the time to go dig up articles.
I don't feel that MR needs to take an active role in debate threads in terms of moderation aside from what has been done (not tolerating spam, name calling, trolling, etc). I feel debate threads should take whatever form as long as they are adhering to decency rules. I guess my point is that these forums are not akin to "debate club" and should not necessarily be treated as such. Besides, I have felt that moderation on past threads has been more than adequate in keeping the topic on topic and civil
Just my opinion
Dreadnought
Mar 28, 02:28 PM
Wrong forum here! You should have posted in the software section or something. Now you have to fold for the MacRumors Folding Team!
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